I brought the legend of the Marketing business, what urban culture refers to as the OG. For those that don't know (no judgement) OG, short for “original gangster” or “original gangsta,” is a slang term for someone who's incredibly exceptional, authentic, or “old-school".

Frank and I spoke about how we got here, how we got to the place of how we stopped being considered. But we do two critical things as well, we define humanized growth and what we can do to get ourselves back to the main table, the main room, the boardroom. Frank talks about what we can do, how we do it and why we need to drive it and most important, who needs to drive this!