“Cruella” is Disney’s latest live-action release where a beloved old movie gets a brand new life, starring two crowd-favorite Emmas: Emma Stone and Emma Thompson. Juan and Diaodiao saw the movie together in the theater, and they dive into the themes of the movie, the complicated history of Disney villains, and the problematic elements in the movie that made us cringe (queerbaiting alert!)

【Timecodes】

• 3:52 “Cruella” is way more awesome when watched in theaters and with friends 
• 7:39 Disney villains: the moral and societal values they represent 
• 9:29 Who is Cruella (old and new)
• 17:00-17:52 SPOILERS
• 19:02 Cruella as a punk icon and fashion icon 
• 25:36-26:07 What’s Cruella rebelling against? SPOILERS
• 28:55 The commodification of Disney villains 
• 29:38 Queerness and queer baiting in Disney movies 
• 31:27-31:39 SKIP FOR SPOILERS

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Joshua Odgen Davis 

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【Links & resources】

• 幕后访谈丨为Cruella设计47套衣服的设计师：70岁，全世界淘古着找灵感
• How Cruella’s Costume Designer Turned Emma Stone Into an Impossibly Stylish Supervillain
• Riot, Rebel, Revolt: The Rise of Vivienne Westwood

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