Join Elizabeth and Francesca Bell, author and poet of What Small Sound, Bright Stain and Whoever Drowned Here in a great conversation. Trigger warnings, censorship, speaking (and translating) German, and more. Francesca reads a couple of selections from What Small Sound and also a poem from her upcoming book of Max Sessner poems, translated from his native German.

Find more about Francesca at https://www.francescabellpoet.com/

Learn more about the playlists that Elizabeth's son does at https://www.mayithowl.com/