Right now it's easy to look around and wonder if our country can get to a place of collective joy. In this expansive conversation with Emmy award-winning creative director, author and speaker, Gwen Gordon, we talk about how play and joy is the foundation for the world we want to create. The transformation starts with a belief of safety, love and connection. Get ready for a heart-warming and beautifully challenging episode.

In this conversation

We talk about

• why safety is at the core of transformation
• how play is possible no matter our life circumstances
• why play doesn't need to be a part of the mainstream conversation
• how we can talk about play in a world that is filled with uncertainty

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