This week, Eva and Katryn talk book burnout, juggling projects, and the pitfalls of hyper-visibility. Katryn gets so dark that she doesn’t even bring up Lord of the Rings once, and Eva explains why she cried into a burrito.

Sources:

• Watch this video of Eva at her Grandma’s organized event if you want to cry in your own burrito!
• Don’t look at this breakdown if you haven’t seen “The Plight Before Christmas” in Bob’s Burgers’ thirteenth season. The single most heart-hitting moment of all time.
• Want a Lady Dexter book about dismembering predators? Give This Girl’s a Killer a try!