For our last show of season 4 we went down to the Mountain Goat Brewery and had a catch up with previous guests Simone Brick and Tommy Lumb.

We heard about what each of them had been up to since we had them on, then discussed caffeine consumption before a race, addressing fear and courage, and found out what's exciting them in running at the moment.

Simone can be found at @flying_brick13Tommy can be found at @mountainroxThe best beer in the world can be found at @goatbeer.