The Imagination

S4E2 | Marc Victor & Marina Louw: When MK ULTRA & the Holocaust Came to Stanford Research Institute


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Today, I’m honored to have back on the show, Stanford Research Institute survivor, whistleblower and hero Marc Victor and his amazing spouse, Marina Louw!

If you missed the episode we did on Stanford Research Institute (which we will be calling ‘SRI’ for the context of this interview) recently featuring Marc, Marina, Frida and Ariadne, I’ll link it below. It was an incredible interview reuniting 3 MK ULTRA survivors who were all in the projects at the same time back in the 50’s and 60’s and who were able to corroborate each other’s stories and talk about their experiences as children being used in these horrific human experimentation projects. Marc and Marina’s YouTube documentary, “The Valley: Inside MK ULTRA” is another terrific resource to hear about and learn how California’s ‘Silicon Valley’ was infiltrated by Nazi scientists through Project Paperclip and the connections Stanford and California had to the inception of eugenics and MK ULTRA projects.

Marc is back solo this time with his beautiful and wonderful spouse Marina and we are going to dive a little deeper into Marc’s story as well as talk about the surprising origins of Project Paperclip and eugenics, and the history behind what came to be known as MK ULTRA and the people involved in it. You are also going to get the honor of listening to Marc talk more about his testimony at SRI and his personal experiences being used in the MK ULTRA projects for 13 years. It’s an honor to listen to a survivor speak their hardest truths. In their testimony are things all of us need to hear and know to understand the world that we live in and the history of how we got here. It’s only when we understand the patterns of the past that we can break the old ways and start anew. Our children deserve a better future and it’s only with survivors like Marc who are brave enough to share their hard truths that we can begin to weave together a new tapestry for the future. One where we prioritize keeping children safe and passing down generational LOVE instead of generational trauma. And I always say that ‘Spouses are the unsung heroes’ of a survivor’s healing journey and to have Marina’s perspectives as a support system for Marc is invaluable. She’s done extensive research herself to understand what happened to Marc and together they contribute a massive piece to this puzzle we are all amassing together with each testimony about these crimes that are still being carried out on children today that date back to the beginning of time. This is an episode you will be learning a ton from - so grab a pen and paper, turn whatever you are doing off, and give Marc and Marina your full attention!

Before I finish introducing this week’s guests, I wanted to give a reminder that if you are a survivor or whistleblower who wants to share your story on the podcast or wants to share any information privately with me, you can now email me at [email protected]! Please send me a briefing of who you are and how I can support you whether it’s through podcasting or sharing information. I also recently started a Substack that I’d love to have your support on that you can find the link below!

MARC & MARINA'S YT DOCUMENTARY:
The Valley: Inside MK Ultra - YouTube

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