With Season 5 of The Grand Life starting just weeks away, here's another bonus episode to keep you updated on topics that are "popping up" on network TV, in books, and in certain Christmas crafts popular with the grandchildren (and which contain zero actual gingerbread).

Our guest Dr. Karl Pillemer, speaking on Estrangement in our Season 3, was recently on CBS Sunday Morning. See the story at https://www.cbsnews.com/video/when-family-bonds-are-broken/ .

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