In this episode, Mark chats to two former Associate Systems Engineers (ASE): Timi Omoyajowo & Yashar Asgari. Our host asks them about their CSAP experience, our culture of learning and feedback. They address what it was like leaving CSAP to go into a permanent role within Cisco and making the most of their support system. They give some great tips about how to avoid getting whiplash from working fully in person, then fully remote, and now in a hybrid model.