We're as sick of thinking about Bears-Commanders as you are hearing about it so we keep it brief, outside of bringing you deeeeep inside our tailgate. Monday night football looms and a visit to New England may remind us all of how far we have to go to be relevant in the NFL once again. Dan talks Bill out of pivoting to an all-Illini podcast as the memory of U of I beating down Dan's Gophers still lives fresh in Bill's pea-sized brain. Plus tons more, including curiosity about an old nursery rhyme that seems quite creepy at the moment. Special visits from Rick Feelsmen (live-ish from Switzerland) and Greasetank Frank keeps us all informed about autosports.