They’re clearly struggling to muster any exciting New Year vibes and seem as though they can hardly stay awake.

Don’t you ever get bored with just walking and feeding dogs?

Walking dogs on leads, paying for their own dinner, and working on films with dogs—such is life.

They discuss upcoming podcasts, which should (hopefully) be better.

The cheese debate rumbles on, alongside the amazing skill dogs have for spitting out tablets.

Bone broth conversations are enough to bore anyone to tears, while Lez—the master of the English language—gives Ross some tips on speech before moving on to competitive obedience.

Find a purpose for training, or you might not bother at all.

2025 goals? Oh, there aren’t any! Well, maybe to get titre testing done.

Leptospirosis – 2 (possibly 3), and 4, Crufts, CLA, and that’s a wrap!

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Lez and Ross have both been in the industry professionally for well over 20 years and each has been involved with dogs for over 40 years.

Whilst sensibly they have stayed away from the ‘limelight’ regarding TV offers, they have regularly been on national and local radio, spoken at national events at NDWA, CFBA, and Kennel Club / Crufts events as well as bespoke speaking engagements for the Dog Safety Education Executive (DogSEE).

Ross wrote for Dogs Monthly Magazine for over 12 years and Lez was the first lady feature writer for a national Shooting Magazine (both Sporting Gun and Sporting Shooter).

They were also 'study buddies' and were the first in the UK to achieve a Masters Degree (Professional Practice) in Canine Behaviour and Psychology in 2011. They work well together and apart, support and work with dog rescue organisations and train professional dog trainers and behaviourists.

Different as chalk and cheese, but maybe not as different as they like to think.

Intrigued? want to know more? then check out our websites...

www.rossmccarthy.com ~ www.lezgraham.com