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Jason welcomes his university poetry prof & the squire of Appledore Tom Wayman for a jabberwocky about the ego needed for writing, Leonard Cohen, Robert Bly, Gary Snyder, being hung with horseshoes, the perils of teaching poetry, gathering wood & chopping it, and, in a corner garden: wilder, lower wolves! (That's an REM reference, you know). Like, love, subscribe, & join the early sh*t chat on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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