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Sorry for the delay, folks—been busy with the washing & the cleaning & that—but here at last is my free-ranging chat with Gary Barwin, roaming from how one ends up in a place to David McFadden to walking like James Joyce to other people's milk. We even get around to some of Gary's early shit. Enjoy. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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