David and Andy get together to discuss the relationship of the Sacred Realm to the Spirit Realm.

HOST: David Geisler GUEST: Andy Barney

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DIRECTED AND PRODUCED BY DAVID GEISLER | WRITTEN BY DAVID GEISLER AND ANDY BARNEY | EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: DAVID GEISLER | EDITOR: DAVID GEISLER | SOUND DESIGNER: DAVID GEISLER