This episode explores how Phillip Hatley’s family responded to his death — both at the time and through three generations, as more information has come to light.

His grandsons say they have a newfound understanding of their father, who was five years old when Phillip Hatley was killed within earshot of his family. The next generation sees opportunities to affect change in their community as police brutality feels closer to home and their family heals.

We also talk to Dr. Monnica Williams, a clinical psychologist and associate professor of psychology at the University of Ottawa on how trauma, including racial trauma, can be carried through generations. 

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