In this episode of Evolutionary Exchanges, David Powell is joined by Jonathan Hay, former COO in global investment banking and a participant in the 2023–24 Clipper Round the World Yacht Race. Jonathan reflects on a career spanning consulting and senior operational leadership, alongside the experience of circumnavigating the globe as part of a constantly changing crew under extreme conditions.

Drawing on lessons from nearly a year at sea, the conversation explores the parallels between ocean racing and organisational life: sustaining shared purpose under pressure, building trust through honesty, and the value of understanding processes end‑to‑end. Jonathan also shares insights on leadership, resilience, attitude versus capability, and why personal networks remain critical within large, complex organisations.