Herre de Bondt and Rebecca Shen are back on the show to discuss Rosa Dyer’s season “Animal Collections/’Objects”. We delve into some of the key themes and tensions to emerge in the season including questions of value, colonization, ethics, and practices of preservation. We revisit a season that follows birds, bodies, and objects across museums and beyond, asking how ethics, beauty, and decay shape what gets collected, displayed, and believed. The talk moves from drawers of parrots to a living hippo, mapping the gap between preservation and care. 

• Natural history Museum in London
• Smithsonian Museum
• Pitt Rivers Museum
• Re-Animalization with Krithika Srinivasan on The Animal Turn
• Animals and Waste with Herre de Bondton The Animal Highlight 
• The Complex Relationship Between Humans and Baboons by Claudia Hirtenfelder
• The Lion’s Historian by Sandra Swart 
• Media Analysis of Racism and Speciesism (MARS) test finds Oscars so AnthropoScenic in contemporary animated films by Natalie Khazaal, Ellen Gorsevski, and Tobias Linné 
• Animals and Media on The Animal Turn
• Animapolis

  

Credits:

• Recorded: 10 June 2025
• Claudia Hirtenfelder, executive producer, editor and co-host 
• Rosa Dyer, script writer, narrator and co-host
• Rebecca Shen, episode artwork and logo, guest
• Herre de Bondt, guest
• Gordon Clarke, bed music
• Learn more about the team here. 

 

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