We explore how to navigate bias, claim space, and thrive in systems not built for women and minorities. Kae Williams shares practical ways to build influence, handle microaggressions, and reach senior leaders with competence and calm. We touch upon these topics:

• mapping systemic patterns that reward proximity over performance
• tying work to business goals to earn visibility
• one‑on‑one networking and cross‑team collaboration
• scripts to approach CFOs and VPs for input
• working with ego‑first leaders and assessing fit
• identifying microaggressors and setting boundaries
• documenting severe incidents and staying professional
• building external support networks and mentorship
• creating psychological safety and inclusive teams
• speaking up with data, questions, and clarity

Find Kae’s book Not Made For You on her website with links to Amazon and more. Follow Kae on LinkedIn, Substack, and Instagram.

Guest Bio
Kae Kronthaler-Williams is a marketing leader who knows how to turn big ideas into real growth. She’s led teams as CMO at companies like Ocelot and Adroit North America, working at the intersection of AI, supply chain, manufacturing, and data-driven strategy. 

Kae is also a coach and speaker who cares deeply about people, purpose, and performance. She helps leaders build better cultures, strengthen their influence, and lead with confidence and clarity. She’s passionate about equity, growth — both professional and personal — and what it really takes to show up as your best self in work and life. 

Show Credits

• Intro and outro music - Az
• Audio engineer - RJ Basilio