In this episode of *The Virtual CISO Moment*, Greg **Schaffer** sits down with Michael Scheidell, CISO of Security Privateers and Managing Director of Team One Support. Michael shares his unconventional path from robotics to cybersecurity, lessons learned from building companies, and why real-world experience matters more than certifications. He also opens up about stress, service, and his passion for helping veterans transition into IT. A conversation that blends technology, business, and humanity—don’t miss it.