Inside of four months before Kentucky Derby 2025, what are the dos and don'ts of futures betting on America's biggest race? A panel with plenty of experience making and taking those wagers is front and center this week on the Ron Flatter Racing Pod.

Michael Beychok won the 2012 National Horseplayers Championship, and Jody McDonald is a host on Infinity Sports Network, WFAN in New York and WIP in Philadelphia. Both have had their successes and failures with long-range handicapping of the Derby, and they share those tales. Based in Las Vegas, Paul Zilm wrote futures odds for five years on the Kentucky Derby. Now that he has left Circa Sports, he is free to share insights about how the numbers move.

Super Screener creator Mike Shutty takes his turn in the handicappers rotation with a focus on weekend races at Gulfstream Park and Tampa Bay Downs. Co-host John Cherwa of the Los Angeles Times weighs in during the weekly reading of listener and reader feedback.

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