From Churchill Downs, Kentucky Derby 2025 talk intensifies on the Ron Flatter Racing Pod.

Two-time Eclipse Award-winning trainer Brad Cox discusses Grade 1 Florida Derby winner Tappan Street and Jeff Ruby Steaks (G3) victor Final Gambit, his two horses for the Derby. He also talks about undefeated Good Cheer, who will be the favorite in the Kentucky Oaks (G1).

FanDuel TV's Scott Hazelton offers his early thoughts on handicapping the Derby, especially the horses he has watched in the flesh as well as Luxor Café and Admire Daytona, the two colts from Japan who he will be seeing for the first time. He also talks about Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert's return to the race that he has won six times and whether he sees a seventh trophy going back to Southern California.

Horse Racing Nation's Mark Midland handicaps two Preakness qualifiers at Oaklawn and Laurel Park as well as the graded stakes Saturday at Keeneland. He also has some early thoughts about the Kentucky Derby.

Co-host John Cherwa joins to field listener and reader feedback and throw his $2 worth into the Derby conversation.

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