Robert (Bob) Vail, Citrine’s Director of Security, is a Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP) with over 20 years of experience in the financial services, software, and cybersecurity industries. Started his journey as a helicopter pilot, worked with Security4Charities, and is now sought out as a thought leader in the security industry. Connect with Bob on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobvail/Insights in this Interview* Why the FAIR Methodology is so powerful and how to use it* The difference between being negligent, ignorant, and being effective in detecting attacks* How to define and use Intrusion vs Breach when defending your companyTopics Reviewed: * History from Helicopter Pilot to CTO to CISO* Involvement with Security4Charities* Leading during “enforced work from home” #WFH #COVID19* How the “shared responsibility” model impacts newer companies* Defining and exploring “Intrusion vs Breach”* Insights into effective User Training “Go out of band” * Communicating effectively with executives using the FAIR methodologyFavorite Quotes:“In security there are few right answers but lots of strong thinking”“The moat [defending the castle] was made unless the day they invented the helicopter”“The job of the computer is to reply “yes” the job of security controls is to prevent the questions from being asked.”Reference:* Security4Charities - https://www.linkedin.com/company/security4charities* FAIR - https://fair.org* FAIR - https://www.risklens.com/why-risklens/built-on-the-fair-standard/