Fun episode this week with the talented and funny Shaman Johal. We talk dads, being a lonely kid in a dusty farm town, the importance of a higher education (but not really), bucking cultural trends, Shaman is the odd man out, Shaman's dad is a sports star, and Abby gives us a summer camp update.

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