Erik talks with Jens Müller, founder and managing director of Müller & Partner Sachverständige (M&P Experts) and longtime robotics safety specialist, about how safety fits into innovation for robots, mobile systems, and emerging humanoids. They dig into why standards matter, how to think about safety from the very first concept, and what startups and investors should know about compliance if they want to scale globally. 

Along the way, Jens shares lessons from three decades in industrial automation and why safety can be a real accelerator, not a roadblock. The conversation highlights how clear guidance and a structured safety approach help teams navigate new technologies with confidence.

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