If you spend any time — inbounds or in the backcountry — skiing or riding in avalanche terrain or near tree wells, then you need to listen to this episode. Because we’re talking about a new system designed to increase your chances of survival if buried in an avalanche or tree well: the Safeback SBX. Our guest is Tor Berge, the CEO of the Norwegian company, Safeback, and Tor and I have a wide ranging conversation about avy gear in general, while also diving deep into the development process of their SBX system and exactly how it works. There’s lots of good food for thought in this one.

TOPICS & TIMES:

• What sparked the idea? (2:49)
• Buying More Time while Buried (6:40)
• Defining the Problem: Trauma & Asphyxia (9:52)
• Activating the System (15:41)
• Integration: Backpacks, Vests, & Airbags (17:33)
• Difficulty of Development (28:55)
• Which snow type is best for O2 Circulation? (34:45)
• JE’s Experience in Argentina (38:17)
• Surprising Findings in Development? (41:31)
• Certification Process (43:38)
• Tree Wells (49:19)
• Price (55:16)
• Crashes & Close Calls (57:19)
• What We’re Celebrating (1:02:54)

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