This week, Dan and Kris are joined by Leonard Herman, the author of the remarkable book Phoenix IV: The History of the Videogame Industry. They ask him all manner of questions about the book, what's new in this latest edition, and more! 

And as a bonus to our listeners, All orders from Rolenta Press 20% are off until the end of the year using the Promotion code: PHEIV. This includes Phoenix IV and Ralph Baer’s Videogames: In The Beginning.

• Phoenix IV: The History of the Videogame Industry
• Downright Bizarre Games by Michael Thomasson
• Classic Home Video Games by Brett Weiss
• www.stoneagegamer.com
• SAG's theme song "Chubby Chubby Chip Chip" by Mark 'TDK' Knight

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