It has been more than a calendar month since the New Orleans Saints won a football game, but they still find themselves in the heart of the NFC South race with a game they SHOULD win Sunday against division-foe Carolina, who has won just once all season.

But these Saints continue to create more questions for their fans than answers, and the oddsmakers see this game a little differently than they would have seen it just a few weeks ago. (And they keep “choppin’ wood.”) Quarterback Derek Carr is in concussion protocol for the third time this year and has a rib injury, yet Coach Dennis Allen has not said whether it will be Carr or Jameis Winston starting on Sunday. Does it matter?

These are all top topics of conversation on Dattitude Podcast (Ep. 196) for host Jim Derry and The Athletic’s Larry Holder, as the duo will go through comments and questions from listeners and share their thoughts on the matchup. They each will wrap up the show with their predictions for this game and for other top contests in the NFL for Week 14. Spoiler alert: One of them is playing the role of “King of Wishful Thinking.”