The JJ Podcast

Sall Grover | Protecting Women & Common Sense on Trial


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Season 2 continues with a relaxed but fearless conversation with Sall Grover, founder of Giggle for Girls Pty Ltd — and one of the most talked-about women in Australia right now.


In this episode, we unpack Sall’s journey creating a women-only app, the court case that followed, and what it reveals about the loss of common sense in modern politics and our legal system.

We also dive into:

  • The real-world impacts on women’s sport when biological men compete in female categories

  • School curriculums telling children what to do if they feel they were “born in the wrong body”

  • The growing tension between free speech, truth speech, and fear of saying the wrong thing

  • Why so many Australians feel shut down for asking basic questions

It’s not a shouting match — it’s a calm, honest chat about difficult issues that affect women, kids, fairness, and freedom of expression. Whether you agree or disagree, this is a conversation worth having — and we’d love you to weigh in.


🎧 Listen now and join the discussion.

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The JJ PodcastBy Jaimee and Jaimie