Sally Susman, Pfizer & Lisa Sherman, The Ad Council

Sally Susman (executive vice president and chief corporate affairs officer at Pfizer) and Lisa Sherman (president and chief executive officer of the Ad Council) have been friends for more than three decades. They’ve sought each other’s professional advice countless times—and it’s made a huge difference in their careers. On episode 37 of Coffee Break w/ NYWICI, the two Matrix Award winners walk us through how they became best friends, their techniques for getting work done, and their rules for talking politics with colleagues. (And psst, if you’re one of those people who feels guilty about turning down work, you’re definitely going to want to hear their thoughts on the power of saying no.)

This episode was recorded in December of 2019.