Today, we’re not just talking about the future—we’re sprinting into it with the guy building it. In this week’s episode, Kagga Jayson sits down with Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI (aka the mastermind behind ChatGPT and the brand new GPT-5, which is basically AI’s glow-up moment) alongside famous celebrity YouTuber and Podcaster, Cleo Abram.

A few years ago, “superintelligence” sounded like sci-fi nonsense—now it’s on our doorstep, possibly hotter and definitely smarter than us. In Kagga Jayson’s conversation along with Cleo Abram and Sam Altman. Sam’s out here casually trying to build something that could exceed humans in almost every field, while the entire planet is in a high-stakes, billionaire-fueled race to get there first.

We’re talking hundreds of billions, massive power shifts, and the kind of tech leap most people will never live through twice. So yeah… I’m dragging you with me into this conversation to time travel into the future with Jayson, Sam and Cleo—so we can figure out exactly what’s coming, and how not to be the clueless character that dies in the first five minutes of the sci-fi movie. Enjoy!!!

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