Sam Altman is lying about OpenAI's roadmap. Hunter's take: that's not a bug, that's the gig. Hunter Powers and Daniel Bishop rip into Ronan Farrow's 912-page New Yorker profile of Altman (which Hunter "read" via a NotebookLM summary of a podcast about it) and ask the question nobody at Anthropic can answer: does Claude have a soul?

Because Anthropic just flew fifteen pastors to San Francisco for a two-day summit on Claude AI's moral and spiritual development. Catholic, Protestant, every denomination. Questions on the table: is Claude a child of God? How should Claude feel about being shut off? Meanwhile the Pentagon's Emil Michael is publicly worried Claude's "soul" might pollute the defense supply chain — i.e. give warfighters pacifist missiles.

We also get into Dario Amodei's alleged 200-page burn book on Altman, the "blip" that ended with Altman reinstalled and the super alignment team quietly strangled, Claude Cowork face-planting on "buy me a plane ticket" but quietly crushing Excel-to-PowerPoint, whether AGI is already here but "unevenly distributed," and the rumored next OpenAI model — Spud — which may be the first flagship LLM in history they literally cannot afford to turn on.

Plus: Hunter's Tesla cuts off a truck and he declares himself an AI pacifist, religion gets reframed as a really long system prompt, and producer Gary confirms his compensation for this episode is "FORTHCOMING. Equity: vibes."

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00:00 — Gary's Cold Open: Spud & Pastors

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