Paul chats to Sam Wykes and Pauline Piliae. Sam and Pauline are both professional rugby players who currently play for the NSW Waratahs and are ambassadors for Rugby NSW Positive Rugby Foundation. The three chat about Sam and Paulines unique journeys to professional rugby, the role that culture played for them both growing up, what lessons and values the sport rugby has taught them and the work that they are doing to help empower the younger generation.