Dr.s Samuel Perry and Andrew Whitehead join the conversation to discuss their research on Christian nationalism. Is Christian nationalism synonymous with white Evangelicalism? What is the difference between civil religion and Christian nationalism? Why does anybody listen to David Barton?

Also we get into questions of power. Who benefits from Christian nationalism? How do issues like gun rights and the sacralization of the constitution preserve power?

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Music: Orbach

Art: Phil Nellis