It all started in 1978 with a novel by Armistead Maupin, which was originally serialized in The San Francisco Chronicle. Although it spawned more novels, spinoffs, and a couple of television adaptations - all incarnations of Tales of the City shared one thing: a group of people, finding their way in San Francisco, finding and making new bonds, creating their own version of family.

This week, we’re joined by Lauren Morelli, showrunner of the Netflix limited series Tales of the City and Armistead Maupin, author of the original series, for a cozy conversation in a hotel room in San Francisco as they talk about their experiences with the Tales, San Francisco and each other.