This week we're talking to Ben Wizner from the American Civil Liberties Union about what the ACLU have been doing in the first year of Trump's second term, what the difference is between this time and last time, and how an earth they can keep up.

Links

ACLU report: ⁠https://www.aclu.org/campaigns-initiatives/aclu-vs-trump⁠

Kyllo case: ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States⁠Underground

Empire book: ⁠https://henryfarrell.net/underground-empire-2/

⁠Swift work between PI and ACLU: ⁠https://privacyinternational.org/blog/1355/pi-and-aclu-show-swift-auditor-has-extensive-ties-us-government

Yale lectures on National Security law: ⁠https://epe.yale.edu/videos/above-law-or-beneath-it-how-national-security-law-subverts-accountability-and-weakens-0

Asylum for White South Africans: h⁠ttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/30/us/politics/trump-refugee-admissions-white-south-africans.html

FISA reauth: ⁠https://theintercept.com/2026/01/29/nsa-702-fisa-surveillance/