In this episode, SAND Fiction Editor, Jennifer Neal, says as writers, we have to insist upon ourselves in order to take our craft seriously and she talks about the upside of family estrangement, something that is common with writers who tell deep truths and spill family secrets. In the interview, Neal also speculates about what Zadi Smith might be saying in the mirror these days and answers the question, How many introverts does it take to screw in a lightbulb?