In our latest Leaders Insights episode, we spoke with Sandy Ortmanns whose journey started off the typical track, shy, under the radar and unsure about university.

From choosing business college, to working across multiple industries, raising a family and eventually stepping into roles in defence and higher education, her story is one of persistence, adaptability and leading with heart.

What really shines through is her belief that great leadership comes from knowing your people, recognising their strengths and giving credit where it’s due.

For anyone navigating their own leadership path, this conversation offers real, relatable insights on growing through life’s twists and turns.

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