Eric Small is the Chief of Police for one of Maine’s largest cities, Sanford. Small talks about the failure of needle distribution programs and progressive restorative justice models. He highlights a case where one individual in Sanford has been arrested and released 23 times, with practically no consequences and no treatment (18:00). Small also urged Maine Gov. Janet Mills to veto legislation that would block his ability to cooperate with federal immigration authorities, citing its potential harm to Mainers and no obvious benefit (40:00).

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