The gang goes over a meeting with CAPCR about police reform in St Louis and America, broadly. Long and heavy, but a good discussion with it all: laughs, tears, and a genuine desire to see the police dismantled.
Rolling Stone good start point
https://rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/policing-is-a-dirty-job-but-nobodys-gotta-do-it-6-ideas-for-a-cop-free-world-199465/
Derecka's article
https://nytimes.com/2019/09/26/opinion/the-police-cant-solve-the-problem-they-are-the-problem.html
Here's the big legal paper
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3061917
Hosts:
Maria Felix
Hugo
Cheb!
Billy Pilgrim