This episode is coming at you in a new and different way, in a time of new normals. We are experiencing a period of physical distancing due to a global pandemic, changing we gather in community, something that is essential for camp. So, this conversation with Sarah Steinwand Ailts was recorded through a phone call. We give thanks for the ways technology connects us and have an even greater appreciation for the importance of community at this time. Sarah has a long history with outdoor ministries, from camper to counselor as a youth to parent and supporter as an adult. Hear how her experiences shaped her life, and why she would encourage others to make a camp experience a priority. 

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