We all know that saturated fat is bad for us.  But do we, in fact?  In her New York Times bestselling book, "The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat & Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet," Nina Teicholz demonstrates that the scientific "consensus" on fat was reached much the same way that the consensus on Covid 19 vaccines was reached -- by intellectual bullying and the demonization and silencing of critics.  In this fascinating interview, Teicholz reviews some of the central arguments of her book -- a book that Malcolm Gladwell said "blew [his] mind."