What is the remit of Poland’s National Cultural Heritage Institute at home and how can it help save Ukranian cultural heritage from Russian missiles? Debrief host John Beauchamp meets the institute’s director Dr Katarzyna Zalasińska talks protection of cultural heritage at home and how it is supporting Ukrainian partners during the ongoing conflict.

We also hear how UNESCO has so far been powerless to stop its annual World Heritage meeting from going ahead in the Russian city of Kazan, despite protests.

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