This spooky season, Erika and Katy are getting tortured by "Saw." They dive deep into the War on Terror, the River Styx, and why Jigsaw is capital L capital T Like This.

• “Devil’s Advocate: Saw,” Benjamin Poole: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13040042-saw
• “The Problem of Saw: ‘Torture Porn’ and the Conservatism of Contemporary Horror Films,” Christopher Sharrett: https://www.jstor.org/stable/41690851?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
• "Torture Porn in the Wake of 9/11," Aaron Michael Kerner: https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/delaware/torture-porn-in-the-wake-of-911/9780813564029/