Is it possible to spend 102 minutes talking about a song that barely has any lyrics? It is when Cole Cuchna shows up. The host of the Dissect podcast joins Chris and Travis to talk about one of Kanye West's most polarizing tracks ever: Say You Will. Kanye shocked the world when he opened 808s & Heartbreak with this spare, minimalist art-pop tune—and we love him for it. In this episode, Chris and Travis deconstruct the hypnotic lyrics of Say You Will while Cole breaks down the song's haunting production.

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