In this episode, Arielle and Gabe speak with Greg Dember, the Seattle-based author and musician, whose recently released book Say Hello to Metamodernism: Understanding Today’s Culture of Ironesty, Felt Experience and Empathic Reflexivity explores how culture that combines the ironic and the sincere has been captivating us for the past twenty years. We talk about the unique power of the “dramedy” and why shows like The Bear have been so successful in making us laugh and cry, as well as what the future holds for tenderhearted musicians, artists, and writers.

Links:

Buy the book

Greg Dember's Website

YouTube Channel

What is this? A crossover episode? Arielle's conversation with Greg and Linda about Bojack Horseman

Notes on Metamodernism article by Timotheus Vermeulen and Robin van den Akker

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