In this episode, Tom DeWire interviews Jen Foster from the eMints National Center, a grantee of the Education, Innovation, and Research (EIR) program. They discuss eMints' instructional model, the evidence of its effectiveness, and the importance of understanding adult learners as keys to strong sustainability. They also explore the role of external evaluators in driving results and the impact of proactive classroom management on student behavior. The episode concludes with practical takeaways for educators.