Face your fears with an all-new episode of Binder podcast, just in time for Halloween! Producer Drew drops in to help Ray overcome his phobia of snakes with a new game. After the break, Jamieson Ridenhour and Hayley Heninger of the narrative horror podcast Palimpsest stop by to talk about their show and embracing the things that haunt us.

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