Apicius, the original gourmand, comes up a lot in this discussion with Bon Appetit wine editor Marissa A. Ross that veers into a whole bunch of ridiculous name-dropping. Also, fried meats! Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss an episode! https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/smart-mouth/id1171755407?mt www.facebook.com/smartmouthpodcast/ www.instagram.com/smartmouthpodcast/