The Scientific Enneagram is where curiosity, data, and depth meet. In this trailer, host Danielle—an engineer, Enneagram Nine, and lifelong bridge-builder—shares the story behind the show and why she’s obsessed with bringing more nuance and research to the Enneagram space.

Drawing on 15 years in the defense sector, a master’s degree in the psychology of mental health from the University of Edinburgh, and a knack for translating “engineer-speak” into human language, Danielle explains how she stumbled into becoming a conduit between science and the Enneagram. She talks about her frustration with rigid, unreliable personality tests, why the Enneagram’s situational and developmental lens felt like home, and how that led to her running informal studies on Enneagram types, neurodivergence, and mental health with thousands of respondents.

If you’re hungry for evidence, allergic to oversimplified memes, and committed to a “relentless pursuit of nuance,” this podcast is for you.