In our first podcast of 2021, we are joined by Jen Kellogg, one of the founding members of Show Makers. Jen got her start in the music world at the University of Iowa's SCOPE programming board before joining JAM Productions, then crunching numbers as Tour Accountant for Vans Warped Tour. Along with her work at Show Makers, Jen currently teaches Producing and Touring Live Entertainment at Columbia College Chicago. In this episode we talk about Jen's journey, balancing her love of the road with her growing family, the nuts and bolts of money crunching for an endeavor the size of Warped, and her desire to educate others all along the way.